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Post by bluedogkillr on Mar 11, 2013 13:23:37 GMT -5
Please leave feedback!
Recently, the idea has been thrown around that it might be beneficial to create yet another clan specifically for CW ready players. The majority would be moved from FurHQ into this newly created clan so as to better track, advise and administer them.
What are your thoughts on creating a new clan specifically for CW ready players?
It would be GREATLY appreciated if you left feedback as to why you think it would be a good idea, a bad idea or other any other suggestions you might have.
P.S. lore, feel free to edit this if you want.
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Post by OrangeBlueZ on Mar 11, 2013 20:47:27 GMT -5
I think it'd be a good idea. Take some of the pressure off the clans and free up space for the casual players. The reddit clan has the same mentality, and they've got like 8 clans to hold their players. The first two are specifically for their clan wars players with top tier tanks.
That being said, I feel like it'd be a waste to create a clan with just CW in mind. Switch an existing clan, (FURST comes to mind just by namesake) and create a new clan to catch the overflow. Most the clans are at 90+ Members anyway
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Post by Decepticrew32 on Mar 12, 2013 4:27:02 GMT -5
As interested as I am to be in CW, I feel a connection with [FURHQ] that I really don't want to give up just to be in Clan Wars.
I really can't describe it, but I wouldn't switch clans just to participate in CW, I'd rather have it where one clan that we currently have where to only have CW players and the casual and players without the required levels be put in a new clan or in an existing clan. I'm just not sure about this right now.
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Post by bluedogkillr on Mar 12, 2013 14:45:45 GMT -5
A reason a new clan would be favored is it would be easier to move say 15 CW players than it would be to move the 50-60+ players not ready for clanwars out of the clan.
In reply to you orange, FURST is basically overflow for when FURHQ became full. So in a way, we already do this. The problem is, there are some players in all 3 of the clans who don't necessarily want to or are ready to participate in CW. That makes it difficult to organize a force.
Appreciate your input guys!
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Post by damaske on Mar 12, 2013 15:36:34 GMT -5
**walks into the tread looks around.**
I like the idea of dis!
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Post by OrangeBlueZ on Mar 12, 2013 16:42:53 GMT -5
The problem is, we're to the point already of rejecting players -furries trying to join a mostly casual clan- in the hope of picking up players that are 'clan war ready', which to me makes little sense. It would be to our benefit to have another clan to accept newbies in. It's a little more work if you want to remove players to turn our existing clan members over, but it's a 2 day turnaround anyway if they had to leave a clan. I would say if we convert an existing one into our clan wars, you would only need to boot an existing member once it filled up all the way to make room. If they're not participating in CW, just have them move to the other clan. Doubly so if they're identified as inactive in WoT, which I am almost certain happens in all three clans.
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Post by bluedogkillr on Mar 12, 2013 18:40:16 GMT -5
Well, we aren't rejecting people. If they apply to FURHQ or FURST and they don't have the tanks necessary for cw, then we see if they want to join FURRD. FURHQ and FURST are already pretty full with only a handful of spots left, with FURRD on its way there already. So the idea is to move the managable number of people who want and are ready to participate in clanwars to a new clan which will free up space in FURHQ for the "casual" players.
Remember, any furry can still join. They just might not be in FURHQ or FURST. The important thing is not to see it as: "I want to join FURST" or "I want to join FURHQ". It really doesn't matter because all three clans are members of a collective of furry WoT players. The clans only help to bring everyone together. There is no competition between the clans either.
This is merely to make administration easier since there will soon be 300+ players combined. I think this is coming to the point where, like you said, reddit has 8 clans now? This is basically the same thing, we may have 8 furry clans in the future, and being in any single one shouldn't necessarily be taken as being in a seperate clan. If I am in RDDT5, I am still part of the RDDT clan, just with a number attached. Each of our clan names just happens to be unique and doesn't necessarily follow any standard.
Does this make sense? I am not trying to argue I just want to make sure people understand why we might want to do this or not do this and by all means this should be discussed by as much of the clan as possible since it does involve everyone.
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Post by OrangeBlueZ on Mar 12, 2013 23:14:01 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying. I suppose I got a little off topic amidst my point, but bottom line, yes, I agree we should have a clan dedicated to clan wars.
The point I was making is that the clans are pretty much full and that it is highly likely that we will need another general purpose clan soon with the current population. Figured I'd suggest to merely kill two birds with one stone and avoid potentially having to make two more clans to hold clan wars players and general members. It seemed like that may be a bit more wasteful to have to manage the addition of two more clans, which I believe will happen either way within a relatively short time.
A clan wars specific one I would realistically see having no more than the number of members necessary for clan wars and alternates, and even after moving them to a new clan, the space created in the existing clans would leave a minor amount of room for growth before calling the necessity of a new general clan anyhow.
If setting up more clans is no issue at all, I suppose it renders the point moot. Merely wished to convey my concern for efficiency with what we currently have, and minimize needless expenditure of management and whatever it costs to set up a clan. I know it isn't free.
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Post by bluedogkillr on Mar 13, 2013 0:29:36 GMT -5
Ok, I get what you're saying. I suppose I already had it in my mind that we would create a 4th general purpose clan anyways, and so, failed to see your point and assumed you knew that too.
So, your question still stands: Would it be better to just create the 4th clan and move players from furhq to "4thclan" or create a 4th clan and also a specialized CW clan?
I really appreciate your feedback on this orange ;D
Anyone else, please feel free to chime in.
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Post by Decepticrew32 on Mar 13, 2013 0:34:25 GMT -5
Would it be better to just create the 4th clan and move players from furhq to "4thclan" or create a 4th clan and also a specialized CW clan?
I'd like to have everyone moved from FURHQ to "4thclan" and use FURHQ as the CW clan. rather than creating two more clans.
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Post by ferrit on Mar 13, 2013 0:37:59 GMT -5
I think that we should have a 4th clan specifically for clan wars just because we don't have an active ongoing group to do clan wars yet or maybe even just swap some people around and make one of the 3 the group unless we have too many people.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 1:44:52 GMT -5
If you really think we are ready to take that big of a leap into clan wars then sure... I don't see why not.
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Post by OrangeBlueZ on Mar 13, 2013 1:57:27 GMT -5
I figure if we create the '4thclan' and set it up for general purpose, that would be optimal. By doing so, we would need to declare one of the existing clans our 'clan wars' active clan.
Now, if we did this, we have two ways of going about the people existing in whichever clan becomes the clan wars clan.
We can A.) Move out all the non-clan wars players to the new clan. This is essentially the same thing as making a specific clan wars clan for the purpose of moving players into, reversed.
Or B.) Let the non-clan wars players stay in the clan as long as the space is available. This would mean moving all the active clan wars players into the clan as expected, and booting out whoever is not actively participating to make the space.
As long as this is made clear to the furs in the clan, I do not see there being an issue letting non-clan wars players stay as long as space is there. This maximizes the amount of space we would have available and would set back the time before a 5th clan is necessary.
While we are 'one clan', I've seen that people identify with whichever clan they are in and may feel reticent on just having to move arbitrarily.
To that end, a little more effort might be necessary to identify better candidates for whom to move first, by category of activity (Should not have any qualms moving someone who has not been active in WoT within X amount of time) and after that, perhaps seniority (time in clan). You could also have a roster of volunteers of furs willing to move first if needed.
Of course, with this plan I would fully expect leadership support in letting people voluntarily move to the new clan.
But to fully answer the question, if there's no issues just making 5 clans, you can do whatever you want. There would be no reason to move anyone but the clan wars players to the clan war specific clan.
Just my thoughts and suggestions on how to go about this in detail. :3
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Post by bluedogkillr on Mar 13, 2013 10:16:31 GMT -5
Noted, orange. I guess my main concern in this case then is, wouldn't it be easier to move the lesser amount of CW ready players than it would be to move the majority of those who are not ready? Also, if this were to be voluntary, it would be very difficult to notify all the less inactive members about this whereas the CW players are on much more frequently which would make it worlds easier to move them or have them move.
I myself am leaning toward option B but also think that a 4th clan is going to be needed in the near future anyways. But this is why we are discussing it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 11:29:52 GMT -5
Basically the only problem I would have with moving is that I like seeing exactly when I joined the clan. I am very weird about certain things like that and it would be reset if I quit and joined the new one. (I joined right before Christmas, and I like seeing 2012 in the join date when I view my service record.)
I guess you could say I am a little bit OCD when it comes to stats of certain things on my profiles... Join dates are one of them.
Not a big issue but other people might feel the same way. (Or maybe I am just odd...) >.=.<
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