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Clan Wars Team Suggestion May 16, 2013 20:39:14 GMT -5

Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 20:39:14 GMT -5

Hello everyone!

I just had a little idea to make it a bit easier for whoever is calling clan wars to tell people where to go and how to reposition.

It will take time to implement and may be frustrating at first, but in the long run, it will help out tremendously in my opinion.

So here's the plan...

Each member posts their clan-war ready tanks in a reply to the thread that will be made if this idea gets a green-light and gets tested. They will be added to a list that the commander can adjust as he sees fit.

Example 1:

TheRockinDragon
Mediums: FV4202 --- Batchat
Heavies: E-100

The commander selects which tank he wants and assigns me to a squad. These squads can be called anything really, however I would prefer if we used military jargon as I feel it adds to the teamwork vibe.

Example 2:

TheRockinDragon
Commander requested tank: FV4202
Squad: Kilo

The member then checks this list and sees the tank that the commander wishes for them to use. (Not required of course if they can play better in something else, but it helps the commander if they know what people are bringing).

Example 3:

I log in, check the squad page and see that I have been assigned to Kilo. All the other members of Kilo squad has become my brothers in arms and I will fight to the end with them and lead/follow them into battle. This has now effectively become my nickname for clan-wars and when I hear mention of "Kilo" I will listen close to what is being said because that directly relates to me.

No more "Who am I with? Where do I go?" and all that. When the commander says "Kilo squad, move to D-5 and surpress the advance, do not advance past the rocks." I know exactly who I am moving with, I know who the commander was calling to, and I now can confirm the order with the "Affirmative" hotkey.

It will take some time getting to know who else is in your squad, but that's the fun part... You get to learn your squad's playstyle and can better react to their movements and actions. For example "Thedudewholikestobesecondincornerpeeks" likes to be the second tank in the firing line at a corner, eventually you learn this and make room for him in the lineup. Little things like that.

This can be practiced and implemented in training rooms first so that we don't dive into a full clan-war with an experimental project.

The ideal amount of squads is 3-4 depending on the map. The following callsigns can be used or any others if you have a suggestion.

Alpha
Bravo
Charlie
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Golf
Hotel
India
Juliet
Kilo
Lima
Mike
November
Oscar
Papa
Quebec
Romeo
Sierra
Tango
Uniform
Victor
Whiskey
X-Ray
Yankee
Zulu

Comments or suggestions? Leave a post below and let me know. ^.=.^

Last Edit: May 16, 2013 21:22:31 GMT -5 by Deleted

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Clan Wars Team Suggestion May 16, 2013 20:41:45 GMT -5

Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 20:41:45 GMT -5

*Reserved for more examples*

Here is an example of the list! (Man it's weird to make a table with BB code and not Excel... :

Initial idea:

Member	Requested tank	Squad
TheRockinDragon	FV4202	Kilo

After going over Lore's feedback there's another way we can organize it to where we won't have to change squads when a tank is locked. You will be assigned to a specific role based on your favored style of play and thus can be effective on any map.

Role idea:

Member	Role	Squad
TheRockinDragon	Flanker	Kilo

Last Edit: May 16, 2013 21:28:37 GMT -5 by Deleted

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Clan Wars Team Suggestion May 16, 2013 20:52:01 GMT -5

Post by Lorethian on May 16, 2013 20:52:01 GMT -5

This is a fantastic idea in theory, however, I feel there will be a small handful of problems implementing it.

Mainly, team composition will change every single day. Even Saturdays, the day that EVERYONE needs to be on, we'll be missing some people and plus some people, so then those people will need to get re-assigned to a different squad, or given a new squad, etc.

Then there's tank locking. If we had a night like we did tonight, where we have to do 2+ matches that our tanks get locked in, then squad composition will change every 15 minutes, not just every day, so that'll add another layer of logistical confusion.

Also, it will vary map to map as well. Kilo Team in Airfield in rock garden might not have the same composition as Kilo Team in Province defending south, so each "team" really needs to be composed based on each given situation.

Now, working on "squad" cohesion and stuff like that, I do like. Steadily assigning Forest and Drgn to the middle, for example, and the autoloaders in rock garden has, I feel really helped us get to know how our our team mates in our immediate vicinity work together. We can focus on keeping certain people together for sure, but I feel that adding extra layers of complication on it would just make more work for, what I see, is virtually no gain.

Everyone else, please weigh in on this!

I want to hear everyone's opinions!

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Clan Wars Team Suggestion May 16, 2013 21:06:07 GMT -5

Post by bluedogkillr on May 16, 2013 21:06:07 GMT -5

Well, it is a good idea, but you pointed out the problems with that lore.

I will say that for me, the best way for me to learn someone's play style, is to watch them play, via platoon or replay. I would recommend that we all post up as many replays as we can, and watch each other play. Simple as that really, that coupled with training and we should be good. Of course, when in training we could work on communication and stuff.

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Clan Wars Team Suggestion May 16, 2013 21:16:21 GMT -5

Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 21:16:21 GMT -5

May 16, 2013 20:52:01 GMT -5 Lorethian said:

This is a fantastic idea in theory, however, I feel there will be a small handful of problems implementing it.

Mainly, team composition will change every single day. Even Saturdays, the day that EVERYONE needs to be on, we'll be missing some people and plus some people, so then those people will need to get re-assigned to a different squad, or given a new squad, etc.

Then there's tank locking. If we had a night like we did tonight, where we have to do 2+ matches that our tanks get locked in, then squad composition will change every 15 minutes, not just every day, so that'll add another layer of logistical confusion.

Also, it will vary map to map as well. Kilo Team in Airfield in rock garden might not have the same composition as Kilo Team in Province defending south, so each "team" really needs to be composed based on each given situation.

Now, working on "squad" cohesion and stuff like that, I do like. Steadily assigning Forest and Drgn to the middle, for example, and the autoloaders in rock garden has, I feel really helped us get to know how our our team mates in our immediate vicinity work together. We can focus on keeping certain people together for sure, but I feel that adding extra layers of complication on it would just make more work for, what I see, is virtually no gain.

Everyone else, please weigh in on this!

I want to hear everyone's opinions!

Excellent points...

It IS very difficult to get a consistent team together and use the same tanks, especially if they have only 1 tier ten, or only 1 of the same type of tier ten. (It's a bit easier if they have more than one clan-war medium or heavy for example, because if one medium gets locked, he can stay in the same team as a medium instead of having to change squads when he swaps to a heavy)

Yes that idea is unrealistic in a sense, not everyone has two high tiers of the same type.

In an ideal world the members could simply fill in for a missing squad member under the callsign of that squad, although I feel that this will only confuse some people when they go back to their primary squads.

As for a squad not being the same on a different map, that's kinda what I wanted to work on...

This was just a basis idea and can be swapped around a bit to better fit.

If you don't wanna use the requested tank method, we can implement a method where the member posts their most effective role, and they can be assigned to a squad who has a particular role.

Each squad should, in theory, have a good combo of tanks to where they won't need to swap out if they change maps. Delta squad could always be the heavy main force leading the push. Kilo can always be flankers. Bravo could always be snipers and TD's. It doesn't necessarily have to change on every map if the overall team composition stays anything close to the same.